Friday, October 16, 2009

Press release information


Below is a composite sketch that the Douglas County Sheriff's Office released to the media on Friday, October 16, 2009. The sketch was obtained by witness recall. Please remember the composite is not an actual photograph of the possible suspect, just a general sketch from witnesses.




443 comments:

  1. I pray they find this person and punish him. God be with all of the family.

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  2. Praying for your entire family - I hope they catch him and bring him to justice.

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  3. Please, if anyone out there knows anything, come forward and do the right thing.

    Two wonderful people and their families need you.

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  4. please send this to as many people as you can, this scum is still out there roaming free, he took one of the most beautiful,kindest,giving person, I know and tried to take another. They both spent their lives giving & caring for others. They are loved by so many, the lives He has ruined, Their family will never be the same. I want justice!!! The anger is overwhelming. Please find him.

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  5. Please use your printer and make several copies and hang them everywhere. He has to eat. buy gas, pawn shops. Please help us. I grew up with Barbara (Lea) and she always was there for you as a friend. My heart aches for the loss of a wonderful person. Please help.

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  6. Stevey Kirkland is the one that looks exactly like this and would wear a fake beard to hide the tatoos on his neck i would make sure he gets questioned

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  7. I've never seen Steve Kirkland (Jr?), but have heard his name come up SEVERAL times. I hear he's no where to be found though.

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  8. please keep the tips and names coming. And don't forget to let everyone know that there is a substantial reward offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction. Pass this on to everyone you know.
    -A family member.

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  9. Steve Kirkland was driving a black toyota 4-runner about a month ago.

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  10. There is no doubt in my mind that the man in that sketch is steve kirkland jr. and his dad owns a black 4runner just like the vechile description says. His dad has had the 4runner for a while now and I have seen steve drive it many times!! I'm sorry for your loss but maybe now the cops will listen when we cry for help that there is no justice in glendale!!!

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  11. the kirklands have a friend named charlie who has helped them run from the cops many times and get away with things i'm not sure the last name but charlie is associated with the hellsangels bikers in roseburg might look into that too! Big steve would use any means to help protect his son.

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  12. This makes no since, Wouldn't the cops have arrested him by now? Is this steve guy also tall with a slender build? Do you know where his dad lives & is there still a black 4x4 at his home? I'm sure the police have followed up on these leads. Is he capable of murdering two very sweet older woman? for what, they would have given him anything he wanted. But someone did. My biggest fear is the thought of someone getting away with it. Is there other people that think the sketch looks like him? I went to school with two kirklands in the 70's they were nice guys, I can't beleive they would be related to someone this evil.

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  13. Yes this Steve guy is tall and slender built. His dad has left town with the young steve since the shooting. The older Kirkland sold his 4x4 recently to someone at the Sam Munyon's residence. At least that is where his 4x4 is sitting and ha s been sitting for a month now. The reason why he would shoot those women is because he is associated with those that were set to go to court for the theft that took place at Helen's house over a year ago. Many people in this town think the sketch looks lke young Steve. The two Kirkland from the 70's probably would rather not be associated with the Steve Kirklands. There is always a black sheep in someones's family. We can't pick who we are related to evil or not.

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  14. Steve Kirkland jr. and Joe Boyd of Azalea are two people for the Douglas County Sheriff to be investigating. Especially the Kirlands. They are crack heads. They are both out of Glendale for now. and this is not beneath them to shoot to unarmed ladies. The Tooley and Long family need to push the Douglas County Sheriff's dept. to look at the three men.
    All of Glendale knows that these men had something to do with it. Not sure about Joe, But almost positive about Steve jr. He is associated with Chad Jones. Who is Chad Jones? One of the guys that robbed Helen's home. If these tips aren't enough then I don't know what is.

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  15. I know that the Sheriff's Office have been looking and speaking with the above mentioned people from Day 1.

    Please have faith in our Sheriff's Office. They are working dilligently on this case.

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  16. Folks please continue to think out loud, this person or persons murdered my friend and a member of your community. Not to forget Helen holding on to Life.

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  17. your right we can't pick our relatives, I did not mean anything bad towards the older Kirklands. This is now on americas most wanted web sight. and they say they think it,s someone out of the area, and that they had no conections with the victoms at all That's what the police are saying. I just wish they would catch someone.

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  18. Think about this...If if was someone out of the area, why on earth was he waiting around for the right moment to go in through the back door to shoot the women? Why did he ask for directions to the High School and why wear a fake beard if know one around here knows you. With so many homes near the freeway, why did he happened to pick this house of all the houses that are close to the freeway and there are some that sit out there with no other homes near by. Helen lives on a main road. Her home is hard to find and she lives close to other homes. How would this guy know that maybe a young couple didn't live there with a gun and able to fight. What made him hang around there? He knew exactly who lived there and he knew it was one defenseless old lady. Not for one minute do I believe that this man was a stranger. Strangers go in and take money and food. He took nothing so he had nothing to gain by shooting these two women. If you all fall for that crap that he was a stranger then this murderer will never be caught. Jeff Medford was mudered and they never solved that one, nor the one for Steve Brady, Where is Curt Hill?

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  19. Does anyone know if the police have checked the vehicle mentioned above located at the Sam Munyon resicence?

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  20. How do you know he didn't take anything? It is odd he passed up three other homes, I hope talking about this doesn't mess things up for the police, you seem to know alot. what if the murderer is reading this?

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  21. Hey I read most of this information in the monthly Glendale News paper. The story was very heartbreaking. Lets keep Barbara's family in our prayers and pray that Helen will get better.

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  22. That's my #1 prayer right now, the other is that they catch him. We will be putting up pictures of the drawing & info, everywhere, I hope this will help, I know a lot of young people don't watch the news or read the paper, so it can't hurt. we hope to cover every town up and down I-5, it's a start.

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  23. Here's the link to Stephen Kirkland's Myspace.. you make the call

    http://www.myspace.com/skirk420

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  24. That picture on MySpace is spot on with the sketch!!! You cannot tell me that he is not the one who did it. We all know the motive! We know the associations. Throw his ass in jail!

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  25. I do agree the sketch looks alot like him, but I also have to believe the police know what they're doing. The last thing we would want is for them to rush on this case, and who ever it is get off on a misstake, lawyers love that stuff. criminals have more rights than their victims these days. For now we need to be patient and keep praying for Helen,& Barbara's husband and kids and her sisters, I'm sure some of them read this site, and are greatful for your input. So keep the tips coming.

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  26. We absolutely do appreciate all the tips. The family checks this site daily.

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  27. These are very good tips. You people are great in trying to help this family find the murderer. The sketch and the picture of Steve Kirkand on "MySpace" were almost identical. I just hope that the person that did this does get caught. I know that Chuck and the rest of the family will never rest or be the same untill they catch the guy that did this to both Lea and Helen. There never will be closure for any of them no matter what the out come. Lea was loved by all who knew her. for my part I intend to have the sketch blown up and taped on the inside of my back window. with a phone number to call(DCSO) Wanted for Murder and REward.

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  28. This may have nothing to do with this but if you google "Tooley Oregon," articles come up about a James Tooley who was charged with double homicide of an Anthony Cooper & Melinda Kotkins in Gresham OR in 2008--article says it was drug related. Maybe somebody who knew Cooper or Kotkins went after Barbara as a retaliation crime because of the name Tooley--people in drug circles usually aren't all there mentally. Probably nothing but I'm a friend of a family member and just want to see this creep nailed. Thought it was worth throwing out there.

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  29. It's a long shot, but the pic looks a bit like the missing guy from Washington (Seattle, I think), Nicholas Francisco. A lot of people think he just walked, so who knows. The sketch just caught my eye. He had very dark hair though.

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2297/2277165395_b9963639c0.jpg

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  30. The Tooley home was not invaded. Gresham and Damascus only miles apart. This Murder and Helens attempted Murder occurred in the Long family home. Apparently a crime occurred at the home a year or so ago, based on the blog information. I will not accept a crime of opportunity.
    I cannot wrap my brain around parking a vehicle. Disguising a face with a beard. Arming with a weapon walking down a road, ultimately shooting two innocent grandmothers in the head and than simply walking away.
    Maybe you folks should consider a town hall. I understand that Barbara was in town on Monday and possibly earlier. There has been a reference of a male asking direction to the high school. What did you see, hear, notice, think, and blow off.

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  31. I totaly agree. This was not a crime of opportunity, nor was it a stranger nor transient. It was someone who knew exactly who lived in that house and knew exactly what he was going to do once he got in there. Stangers and transients don't wear fake beards and wait around for the right time to go in shoot two people and run to a truck that they have waiting down the road. he asked where the high school was? Why didn't he get on down the road and go to the high school? He probably wanted to give the impression that he was a stranger. But ten to one he was one of those that broke into Helen's house last year. Which means He was no stanger to this town was he.

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  32. I also do not believe for one second that it was a crime of opportunity. What I don't understand if it seems so clear to everyone, then what is it that keeps the cops from thinking this is who did it. Or from going and picking him up.

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  33. does anyone know the whereabouts of Steve Kirkland and Dad?

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  34. I find it "odd" that Steve Kirkland put a new picture on his myspace with the same pose as the sketch. I had looked at his myspace a few weeks before the sketch came out and he had a fuzzy picture on there. He added his new picture on Oct. 20. Not very long after the sketch came out.He probably reads this site! But then I also find it odd that someone would put on a fake beard, draw attention to themself and then go do something so horrible!

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  35. for the previous poster - how did he draw attention to himself?

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  36. Has anyone thought about contacting myspace to check the IP address that was used the last time he logged on? I know they can locate people based on log on information. I mean this might be helpful if they are trying to locate him. But I am sure they have already thought of that.

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  37. Good point on the IP address! I hope they look into that if they haven't already. Also if they can find a cell phone number he has, they can find the nearest tower that receives a "ping" from.

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  38. really..if he was wearing high heels and a mini skirt with a fake beard that would be drawing attention. But baggy pants and a hooded sweatshirt and a beard are almost a common thing that you see every where. If he wanted to just shoot someone, why didn't he shoot the guy that he asked where the high school was?

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  39. OK so maybe I used the wrong words saying that he was drawing attention to himself. All I meant was, to walk down the road with apparently an obvious fake beard and to stop and talk to someone instead of getting to the house without talking to anyone or letting anyone see you. If I seen someone walk down the road with a fake beard I would look twice!

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  40. My thoughts on this are that he wants everyone to think that a stranger was in the area. That is why he purposely stopped and asked about directions. If he did not do that then we would be looking at everyone local. Sorry, guy, but this community is smart and we don't forget. As the song goes there ain't no mountain high enough, ain't no valley low enough .....we are going to FIND you. Thank you Douglas County Sherrif's office for working on this. We know you will not forget about Lea and Helen. Love and thoughts to the family.

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  41. That's right. This person almost seemed to want to be seen by asking someone where the high school was. Why would he ask in such a rural area? Why not ask for a gas station, or convenience store? Why linger around, walking up and down the road when he could have made others his victim quickly, and make his escape? I just don't understand why they would say this was a crime of opportunity. What opportunity did he take??? This was pre-meditated...not just a random transient, or whatever. I'm hoping the authorities know what they are doing by announcing that. More than anything, and more importantly I hope that God brings peace and comfort to the Tooley's and the extended family and friends. This was such an awful thing to happen, absolutely senseless.

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  42. To the poster of October 29,2009 10:47AM You posted that Steve Kirkland put a new picture of himself on "MYSPACE" on October 20th that matched the sketch. Because the one he had on there before was a fuzzy one. Well my family and i went to his "MYSPACE" site on October 24th 2009 and we kooked at that picture of him and it was right on with the sketch. A perfect match. Also we looked.... and this was remember October 24th at the last time he logged in on his "MYSPACE" and the last time he logged in was August 26, 2009. So NO WAY did he go on line on OCT. 20th and change his picture to look like the sketch. Myspace is never wrong about your log in date. We pay attention to every little detail concerning this case and that was the one thing we did notice. He is not looking at this site. But I bet his friends are. And you better let him know that he will be caught. I still don't get where you think he was bringing attention to himself. This guy did a cowardly thing. he is the scum of the earth. To shoot to unarmed,helpless, women is about as low as you can go. But we all know that the Lord will take care of this scum bag and the people that are protecting him. They are no better and God says there is no place in Heaven for Muderers and liars. And that is satisfying. To know that him and his protectors are going to get it twice. I know that God does not want us to hate, but We all loved Barbara and helen and it is hard not to hate a cowardly person who did such a horrific deed.

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  43. To the above comment: if you look below his picture on the right side of the page it says that Steve added this picture on Oct. 20th. The Aug. 26th date was when he updated his status.
    I agree with you that it is very hard not to hate the person or people that did this even though God doesn't want us to. I know that God is in control of all things and that they will pay for this some day, but it is my prayer that He will allow us to see the justice, especially for the sake of Helen's family.

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  44. is that still on my Space?--cant seem to find it

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  45. It is. go to myspace, click on find friends, type in skirk420, leave "search by" all name fields, click search and it takes you to his page.

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  46. Oh GIVE ME A BREAK!!! His whole home page on "MYSPACE" has changed since that person released his myspace address. He could have given one of his friends his password to change things like "Steve added a new picture to his album" dated OCT 20th. Four days after the sketch came out. This makes it look like he had nothing to hide. It now says last log in 10/28/2009. On Oct 24 we saw his last log in as August 26 or 29th and on Oct 24th there was no new photo in his album announced at that time. I would swear that on the Bible. I looked his whole home page over real good. Everything on there is all different. Thanks to his friends here in Glendale. If you want to look at his myspace page you have to type in skirk420 and hit find friends. It is not the orignal page that was on there before. And if he was so innocent why isn't he here in Glendale. I think some people think Glendale people are so stupid and this angers me. Why didn't Steve post a differnt picture on his myspace? It's because he didn't expect a sketch to be made of him did he? And he didn't expect someone to put his myspace address on here. Why are some people protecting this animal. I hope to God he gets caught! I will quit my job to be at his trial everyday.

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  47. don't forget - there is a substantial reward for the arrest and conviction of this guy!!!

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  48. I don't have a printer but maybe someone could print his picture out and save it, just in case he removes his my space account all together.

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  49. I have his sketch and picture I got off Myspace.. THat is the same person. If I could find a way to post it on this blog, I would...

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  50. Do you know email of any family members? They can post the picture.

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  51. Sorry. I don't know any family members. I don't live in Oregon.I have been following the case ..Believe me, the investagators already know all this & have the photo's.. When we don't hear anything about the case we think they are not working on it, but believe me they are working very hard on it and they will get who did this..

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  52. The thing I want more then anything is for the Long and Tooley family's pain to ease. I'd take that over anything else now that things are the way they are. We can't change what happened. So I ask myself, what would I want. The simplest answer is equality. If someone is robbed or assaulted it's easy to think jail time might make it right. For Chad Jones and Joe Boyd this might be an option, if they're lucky. But when someone decides to take a life, especially for no more reason then to try to get away with stealing from an elderly woman, the punishment of jail time seems out of place. One would hope that such a person would get the worst prison has to offer. But so much more is deserved. Little Stevie Kirkland's dad can't run him far enough away. He can't hide him long enough. Retribution is coming.

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  53. This is so darn frustrating. I know where he is at and if I do, surely the cops do. Why aren't they bringing him back to this state and throwing his stinking ass in jail. I think everyone is this small town knows where he has gone and hidden. If he were so darn innocent. He would not have left this town let alone the state. Now when I see Young men hanging around my place for no reason I get out my camera and I zoom in on them and start clicking away. All the little druggies hang around together. And the people who sell the drugs are no better and we all know who they are. If they aren't made to quit selling their drugs there will be more home break in's and more people getting killed. The drug dealers have free reign of Glendale. And for now so do the murderers.

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  54. Glendale needs more folks like you that are exposing the druggies and not letting them sit happy and comfortable in Glendale any longer. Thanks! Keep snapping those pictures.

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  55. where is he? I'd love to know

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  56. I'd also like to know where he is. In fact, give me everything you got on Steve Kirkland, Chad Jones and Joe Boyd including addresses and other crimes they've done. It would help to know who might be living with them as well.

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  57. The tip line is listed on this site. Please call in with any and all information. Also, don't forget there is a BIG reward.

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  58. Kirklands have family in Oklahoma...last heard Chad Jones was in Washington. I will call the tip line if I have any more specifics.

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  59. Also, you can go to www.nrtoday.com and type in their names to see what they've come up in the Douglas County police logs for.

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  60. Found this on NRtoday website:
    Police and Fire Logs: July 13, 2009
    Oregon State Police
    Stephen Keith Kirkland, 18, of Glendale, on suspicion of fourth-degree assault, second-degree criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.
    Then on July 30th, 2009 he was a passenger involved in a DUII crash. If you search Stephen K Kirkland you can read the entire story from NRtoday website

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  61. Steve's dad took him to Oklahoma and Chad Jones went up to WA. just before the shooting happened. They all used to hang out there at Marty Woods house up until the shooting occurred. After the shooting they all went into hiding. Supposedly They shot Helen so that they would not have to worry about a trial that was going to come up sometime soon for the theft last year of things that were stolen from her home. But that part is not for sure. Just a rumor. But why else would they shoot an unarmed woman and her daughter? He didn't go in there home to scare them. he went in with intentions to kill. The guy was just waiting for the right opportunity to go in and shoot to kill. I am not sure when they got home, but someone saw them at Mary's garden that day so he must have been waiting for Helen and Barbara to get back home. What a sadistic animal. Barbara and Helen need our help and who cares about the reward. I would give the money back if I could help in catching this guy and the people who are helping him. Glendale needs to start banding together and take our town back. I for one intend to move out. I have had enough of living here where the people can sell their drugs and the cops look the other way. People that can not afford drugs go out and steal and sell the stuff they steal so they can buy their drugs. Those people that left town will be back when things cool down. In the mean time The Tooley's and Long's have lost someone that meant the whole world to them and they will never ever get her back.

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  62. Also, if you know the counties that someone has lived in, their full name and approximate age, you can look up someone's criminal history at your local courthouse. Most of them have a system set up in the law library or somewhere similar, where you can look up a criminal history at no cost.

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  63. Please pass this on to everyone you can. Someone saw something.

    http://www.kptv.com/video/15359817/index.html
    Click on the video ""Family hopes for closure in Damascus woman's death"

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  64. Many years ago when I was working for Glendale school district I warned the superintendant and others that there would be increasing crime if the druggies weren't taken care of, I was basically laughed at for mentioning a gang mentality. That attitude still seems to prevail even after a young man was stabbed in the throat and I had to clean up the blood on the sidewalk before the children came to school. Glendale will never grow in the way the leaders of the city want until the drug situation is taked care of, it leads to all kind of bad things such as this sad loss of a precious life. When I heard of who may be involved it did not suprise me, however we must understand that this person is NOT guilty until proven so, otherwise the question would be how much better are we than the bad guy if we ascribe that person to be the guilty person when we don't really know who did it. In talking with law enforcement many years ago they told me that a great deal of the crimes are perpetrated by people that live very close to and are known by the victims.

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  65. I agree with the person that commented about the guy wanted in Washington. I have placed the composite next to the picture on ABC and if you put a fake beard on this guy, they look the same, bone structure, hair type, and eyes.

    As for it being Steve Kirkland JR, this is the Facts on that
    1) Steve sold that 4-runner to
    Sam before the murder, and the 4
    runner was not working. The police
    have already checked that out.

    2) The police have already checked out
    all possibilities of the suspect
    being Steve Kirkland JR. Since he
    is not in jail, I would imagine he
    has been ruled out. As far as
    disappearing, he has been in
    contact with police several times
    since the murder.

    I am not a big fan or Steve or Steve Jr., but I believe these people are looking for a murderer and would like information to help them find the real murderer.

    To the family, my heart goes out to you and my prayers will be for the capture of this criminal, and peace of mind for all family members. God-Bless You!

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  66. Chad Jones robbed that house for sure. Under the right pressure he'll give up the others involved. Then punishment will either be handed out by a judge for each person based on there involvement, or will be handed out by someone less concerned with due process. All the trash that robbed that house should have the same fate and God can sort out who deserves what.

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  67. I've known the Tooley's for over 30 years...I grew up on the same street as them. My family is in complete shock over this! Barbara was one of the nicest people to have ever known.

    We simply MUST come together to find her killer; Barbara's family deserves justice...most importantly they deserve closure.

    My prayers go to everyone affected by this devastation.

    A hole has been left in our hearts.

    RIP, Barbara...God Speed

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  68. okay, Anonymous you said Jason Taylor,please fill in the blanks. you know something, your guessing, what. Your Anonymous so you are safe. Please call the tip line and just let them know what you know. Even if it seems like its not alot of info ,please call them and talk to them. We have to try to solve this, not just for the family but for the community. We have the right not to live in fear. It takes work to keep a town safe and a place where people are proud to be part of. Barbara's family....we think of you every day and if our hearts are broken we can not imagine your pain. God will help us. You have wonderful children, Chuck.

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  69. Please tell the police what you know about Jason Taylor.
    I'm grateful to see all the new activity on this site. Please keep your comments coming and please pass it on to everyone you know. If every person that reads this passes it on and so on, soon everyone in Oregon and beyond will have seen this. Maybe someone saw a frantic driver of a black SUV getting on I-5 that night. Or, maybe someone in Grants Pass sold gas to him. Or, maybe he bought a gun from someone at a pawn shop. PLEASE, pass this on.
    -a family member

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  70. Overheard at Foresters Bar in C'ville last night: "Chad Jones took them out so Helen couldn't testify against him." This was said by an intoxicated female in her 20's. I don't know Chad Jones or Steve Kirkland personally, just by their reputations. I'd sure like to see whoever did this caught, prosecuted, and executed.

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  71. I live in Florida and I'm following this news..Every state know about this..

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  72. I personaly think chad Jones is behind this yes he made sure he had a good aliby, but that doesn't mean he didn't send someone to do it. And God forgive me, but I hope they both burn in hell. I cannot and will not ever forgive something like this, so please don't anyone try to tell me that's what God would want me to do. What they did to these two family's is unforgiveable in my book. I can't write the things I hope happen to who ever's behind this. I just keep hoping they'll be caught, then maybe I can get the chance to tell them in person.

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  73. I'm sorry about the negetive comment I just wrote, sometimes I just kind of lose it. On a positive note to the family's I do feel in my heart they will catch who did this, It just might take a while, but sooner or later someone will talk. In the mean time we need to keep commenting on this site, I know it helps the families a little, to keep hearing that we all care, and we're not going to give up looking.

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  74. Make copies of the flyers and post them everywhere. The reward fund is growing daily.

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  75. To anonymous Jason Taylor, You are a strong soul. You have the strength to pick up the phone and dial 911.

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  76. please do the right thing and call if you know something.

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  77. Does the sketch look like Jason Taylor? Anyone have a myspace or FB page for this guy?

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  78. to anonymous, can you maybe write on here what town Jason Taylor lives in?

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  79. Thank-You for responding

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  80. judy smith [brady/gallego]November 20, 2009 at 9:35 PM

    I have known the Tooley and Long familys all my life and think of them daily ,I hope and pray they find who did this .

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  81. anonymous can you tell me is, Jason Taylor freinds with chad Jones, or steve Kirkland Just a yes or no thank-you.

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  82. are you afraid to go to the police? If you are I understand, thank-you so much for the info you've given so far.

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  83. November 12, 2009 10:36 AM 
    Anonymous said...
    JASON TAYLOR


    I read you words. My heart broke. Your words required a great strength from you . I asked that you draw from your strength and call 911.

    Barbara and I became friends over thirty years ago. I had to make a life changing decision. Barbara focused on my strengths without attentions to any concerns or fears. In my friends memory I would like to offer you the same strength based support. Helen needs your strength of character.

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  84. anonymous, to answer your question yes I'm a family member, Are you afraid to go to the police?

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  85. Is Jason Taylor still around? Do You know why he would do such a horrible thing?

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  86. also understand I'm not an Imediate family member, I'm just a relative who wants more than anything, for the family to have some kind of closure, someday.

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  87. thank you to everyone for stepping up and doing the right thing. It would break my heart for someone else to be injured or, God forbid, killed before this is over. Please, please help us and the Glendale community.
    A family member.

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  88. Remember there is a reward!

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  89. anonymous, would you be willing to talk to someone? in private, Like on a phone or something

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  90. jason taylor
    did not do this

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  91. any idea who did?

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  92. NO ONE SAID JASON DID THIS!! BUT HE KNOWS WHO DID.

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  93. We need a name, So he know's who did this, but has know desire to help or what? The police do not beleive this was done by a local person, so if you really know something different,a tip would be nice.

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  94. So if you speak up and someone is arrested and convicted you WILL get a reward. If you know something and don't speak up that would make you an accessory to murder (I think).

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  95. This is a shocking BLOG! Lots of speculation. I know that both Steve and Steve JR were picked up, held and questioned by police and then, let go!Steve never went to Washington State. He is currently in Grants Pass in a motel. I know the 4 runner was not running at the time of the murder. I also know that if the family, any of the family had any information that steve or stevie committed this horrible crime, they would turn them in. I also know, they have, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, times contacted Douglas County Sheriffs about Big Steve and they were NO HELP!! Refusing to prosecute on crimes he committed because the jails were too full. Child Protection service, NO HELP, Senior services, NO HELP!! Caught red handed on camera STEALING 35,000.00 in gas from Pappas, NO PROSECUTION, NO JUSTICE. CAUGHT red handed stealing again, 10,000. from bank accounts, NO HELP FROM DOUGLAS COUNTY SHERIFFS.
    The Kirkland kids, weap at sensless horrific crime committed in Glendale but, be sure, if they had ANY information, they WOULD come forward.

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  96. I don't feel the police are doing much to solve this case & I don't know why. They have not even mentioned it in the papers since it happened. Shouldn't they once in a while run a reminder in the paper letting people know there is a killer on the loose,and run the sketch again. It's like since the family doesn't live in douglas co. they don't need to go out of their way to catch the guy. I think the family's are probably going to have to hire a private detective to get any answers. I also wonder how much does the fact that douglas co. doesn't have much money play a part, or the state of Or. for that matter. And Glendale is like it doesn't exist, are they not aloud enough gas money to travel to Glendale or what, Why is that man not getting prosecuted for those crimes, this does not make any since. Plus they say it's not a local person who committed the shootings, HOW DO THEY KNOW, it's like that's an easy way not to have to deal with the town of Glendale again. Are they afraid of this Kirkland guy? I always try to support the police, lets face it no one would want their job, But a murder in this area is a big deal & I would think they would be doing something more.

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  97. Sounds like Big Steve could use some money, that way he could move out of the motel. All he has to do is tell what he knows about the crime and he will get the reward.

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  98. the reward is growing daily. It's at least $5,000 now.

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  99. Little Stephen Kirkland was seen in grants pass yesterday. His picture matches the sketch and he drives a black nissan pathfinder, Oregon license plate# 157 EAJ...... Pathfinders look almost identical to Toyota four runners.

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  100. He just purchased that pathfinder. I know that for a fact. He got his money from the car accident with Lakia and bought that pathfinder. He didn't have it at the time of the murder.That is why he can afford a motel! Not that I am defending him but posting facts that are not relevant to the case do not help anyone, only stir up speculation and accusations and controversy. If he was driving the pathfinder at the time of the murder don't you think the cops would be smart enough to realize that? He was already picked up, and his dad, and they were all questioned and the COPS let them GO! Back into your community! Why don't you guys call Douglas County Sheriff, only then can you make a difference. Let them know how you feel about the whole situation, call a town meeting. Keep the pressure on the bad guys. Start a community watch group, drive around at night, take down license plates and times. Take your town back!! The power belongs to the people.

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  101. There is a neighborhood watch group. They're out all the time. That is what they do

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  102. I get e-mails from the Oregon state police department and I thought I might share the one I just received. I don't know how to add links so I will just type the information. "An Oregon State Police trooper arrested a Yuba City, California man Saturday morning during a traffic stop on highway 97 south of LaPine after discovering approximately 2 pounds of marijuana in the man's pickup bed. Trooper Rich Brannins stopped a 1985 toyota pickup with California license plates for an equiptment violation. His name is Timothy Brian Phipps, age 27. He was arrested and lodged at Klamath county jail."
    A link to the picture of the man is: www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2009-12/1002/120509.hwy97mp178.phipps.JPG

    I thought that the man looked very much like the sketch and his vehicle may possible match the one described. It did not say the color of the vehicle in the alert. Just wanted to share this information because you never know what may help.

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  103. cant seem to get to the site or picture of what you reported in last blog

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  104. I agree with how much he looks like the sketch....HOPE for Family.

    www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2009-12/1002/120509.hwy97mp178.phipps.JPG

    Just copy and paste

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  105. WOW it does look like him! We took the picture of steve jr and overlaid it to a photo of him and he is off by 3 points in the appearance that facial recognition software would need to prove he is a match to the drawing. There are 5 match points to be a positive match.

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  106. maybe you should forward that photo to Douglas Co. Sheriffs?

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  107. Thank you for keeping your eyes and ears open!

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  108. Maybe a fund can be set up for a Private Investigator. It took them 10 years to find Stephanie Condon, and she was practically in the backyard of the main suspects parents. I would love to think Douglas County can solve this, I just don't know if they have enough experience in cases like this, though.

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  109. I don't believe the police are lacking in experience, however they need to quit strong arming people. Most cases are solved by someone talking, and people that know things do not talk because they are not treated very well by the police, therefore nothing will get solved with this mentality. The person who left the anonymous comment about being an accessory to murder does not know what they are talking about, and this is just the thing that will chase people away. So please keep these comments to yourself. We need all the help we can possibly get and this is not helping.

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  110. Should their be a fund for a Private investigator or should the reward fund be what people give money to? Would people talk if the reward fund was $50,000+ or should we all give our money to a PI fund to help solve this horrible crime? What do you all think?

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  111. Maybe I don't think like most people but I can't imagine having information about a murder and not coming forward with that information.

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  112. Why can't Douglas County Sheriffs just do their job?

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  113. You can indeed be considered an accessory by helping someone avoid arrest, see below. FYI-I'm not police. Just someone very interested in this case.

    Accomplices, Accessories, Aiders and Abettors, and Principals
    To distinguish the criminal culpability of one from another, the common law developed specialized terms for the various ways in which one could be an accomplice. For instance, a "principal in the first degree" was the person who actually carried out a crime. A "principal in the second degree" (an "aider and abettor") was a helper who was present at a crime scene but in a passive role, such as acting as a "lookout." An "accessory before the fact" was a helper who was not present at the crime scene. While some state laws retain the common law terminology, few states make any distinction between the criminal liability of crime perpetrators and their accomplices. All can be punished equally, whether they actually perpetrate a crime or only help bring it about.
    Accessory After the Fact-
    An accessory after the fact is someone who, knowing that a felon has finished committing a crime (usually the crime has to be a felony), helps the felon avoid arrest or trial.

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  114. Hi.
    I am not in your State, but I follow Barbara & Helen's blog because my son Troy Dean Carney was found murdered in Jackson County, Central Point on Sept 4, 2008..They are still looking for his killer..Troy was also shot in the head, while sleeping in his sleeping bag. Just because you don't hear about the case, that does not mean they are not working hard on it..Jackson County is helping Douglas County. They want the killer as much as you all do, and especially me
    ( Troy's Mom ) and Barbara & Helen's family, and I am sure they are keeping in close contact with the family as they do me. I can say, I do know what the family is going through. There is also no motive in my son's murder. He was a good friendly guy..Just to remind everyone, Dave Lewis was also found murdered on the same day they found my son Troy. They burned Dave's home down with him in it. Dave & Troy did not know each other..Yes there is a sick killer still out there and all law enforcement are doing the best they can. If anyone knew Dave Lewis or/and Troy Carney, you should call it in. It could help solve Barbara & Helen's case. Could it be the same killer? Yes it could be. Troy's Mom.
    www.myspace.com/justice4troy. By the way, Troy did not live in Central Point. He was just visiting. In town less then 3 weeks..

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  115. Thanks for sharing about your son.

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  116. Sorry for your loss, the world is just not a very safe place anymore. I hope they catch your sons killer also. I looked at his blog he looked like a very nice man, just like Barbara was such a wonderful person.

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  117. Thank you..
    I know the waiting is very hard.
    Those killers are the scum of the earth..
    Killers that will walk up to you while you are sleeping and shoot you and shoot 2 innocent defenseless women are nothing but cowards. I wish thoses cowards were reading this right now. I would dare them to say something.
    Keep positive and hold on to the memories..
    They will get them...

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  118. I have posted Barbara's Info on my son's myspace page. www.myspace.com/justice4troy.
    I have also added the composit sketch & also added it to his facebook account. Troy Dean Carney. I will help get to word out any way I can. Troy's Mom.

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  119. Troy's Mom, you are a wonderful lady. I will be keeping you in my prayers also.

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  120. I'm really interested in how Helen is doing. She was a dear friend of my grandmother's.

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  121. Has the name Frayne Haga From Wolf Creek come up ? Sketch looks just like him.

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  122. I haven't heard the name Frayne Haga mentioned here before. Do you have anymore information that could help?

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  123. I dont have any info. I just know that every time I look at the sketch that is who it looks like to me. I do not live in the area anymore. I grew up there known Helen all my life. This guy needs to be caught

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  124. Thanks for your input!!!!

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  125. All I want for Christmas......is an arrest.

    Please continue to spread the word anyway you can. Use facebook, post flyers, tell everyone you know. If you remember something or hear someone say something, call it in to the police.

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  126. Dear Family and Friends of Lea,
    As I sit here wanting to send Thoughts of Love to each of you, Words just don't seem to cover the emotions that we have experienced these last months. The Reason for The Season gives us comfort. Reading this Blog reassures me that there are so many Good people that care. Family, Friends, and even strangers feel the loss and want to comfort. Thank you to everyone. I am not family but a classmate of Lea's. This Season hug your love ones and tell them that you love them and thank them for everything that they do. My family is having a Christmas Prayer at Christmas Eve and we are asking for Peace and please put the people responsible for this pain behind bars FOREVER.
    Love to all.

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  127. I never knew Barbara & Helen. I live on the southern east coast so I really know nothing about Glendale Oregon, but since I read about their story I think about them every single day..Times like this are very hard especially during the holiday's.. This is my 2nd Christmas since my son was found murdered in Central Point. I wish I could say it will get easyer.
    Keep the faith. Law enforcement want those dirt bags as bad as we do.. They will get them. It's just a matter of time..I will keep putting the word out and
    Pray 4 justice for all in 2010..
    Troy Carney's .. Mom

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  128. PLEASE everyone, keep posting on this blog..I hope the people in Glendale and surrounding area's are not given up on this.. Please keep writing your comments. One word could be said that might remind someone about a stranger they saw in town that day..Barbara & Helen where both shot, no motive, not robbed, the same as my son. He was found in Central Point not far from your town, shot in the head while sleeping in his sleeping bag. He also was not robbed.. No motive as to why anyone would want to kill him. I know the scum that shot Troy will not be found on any computer cause the creep that shot them is someone that slithered into town, did their dirty work, then slithered back out again, like the scum they are, but I am not given up. Lets keep it going and pray for justice. Do it for Barbara & Helen...

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  129. crime stoppers video, http://kezi.com/page/156924

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  130. maybe this guy doesn't like the bible? Did Troy have a bible with him? I know Barbara and Helen did? Just a thought...maybe there is common link between them.

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  131. Hi..Yes Troy did carry a bible in his backpack.. I had just talked to him a few hours before his death. He always mentioned his bible..Not sure if they found it with him..

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  132. Did Troy talk with others about his bible? Who have known he had a bible? Or who besides family or someone that had been in the house would have known that Barbara & Helen did?

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  133. I don't know if he had talked with others about it. He could have. He was very talkative and soft spoken..

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  134. i have a question.... about a week ago there was a man here in glendale that was driving black 4 runner older looking and a black bumper.... however it was driving up and down the same street really slowly and looking in peoples windows... however the question i have is does anyone know if the vehicle may have any large sticker on the back window?

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  135. If you see something like this, please take a minute to write down the license # and report it to the police.

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  136. What street was he driving up and down?

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  137. If you see anything that looks suspicious, no matter how small you think it is, you should always call it in. You might not think much of it at the time, but that small thing could be the big break investagators are looking for to solve the case..

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  138. Every day we pray that this will be the day an arrest is made for this crime. Please keep spreading the word. Post our plea for help on every website you can think of. Tell everyone you know. Ask them to pass it on to everyone they know. Someone saw something. The reward is growing daily. If you know something, now is the time to share it.
    -a family member

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  139. Hello friends, we now have an official site to send donations. Please help us bring justice for Barbara Lea. Donations however large or small can be made to the "Barbara Tooley reward fund at any Umpqua Bank branch of your choosing. Or if it is more convenient you can mail your donations to:

    Umpqua Bank
    12550 SE 93rd Avenue, suite 100
    Clackamas, Or 97015

    Please spread the word that the reward is now $13,000. Let everyone know. You never know who might be listening or reading. Please pass this information to all of your friends.

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  140. In response to the January fifth question. I saw that very same Toyota and it fit the description in the south county paper to a T. with the exception that they had put decals all over the windows to change the look of the vehicle. Those Decals did not fool us. I took down the license plate number and will give it to the family if they want to follow up on it. It is useless to give it to the DCSO since they let everyone know that they do not have the resources to go after the shooter. How pathetic. As for you YOU the killer. you will get yours in the next life and it won't be short and quick.

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  141. Would you post the license # here on the blog?

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  142. The family would love to have the license plate number.

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  143. No I would not post it here on the blog. and the person in the black Toyota was not driving around slowly looking in windows. He had his vehicle parked on a side street and he was a slim young guy. ask BJV to show you the photo of it. If she ask you who has the photo tell her I posted them. Her sibings best Friend. The Jan 5th posting has me concerned. The kid may have seen me taking photo's of the vihicle and wants to know why . Or maybe not. But not taking any chances.

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  144. would you please email the license number to redbookdog@gmail.com? your help is appreciated very much.

    Thanks,
    a family member

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  145. How do I know that you are a family member. I will ask you a secret question. What is Brabara's husbands Middle intial and I want it soon. I don't want to give someone time to look it up.

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  147. for obvious reasons, the family does not want to post too much personal information on the forum. If you will email redbookdog@gmail.com you can ask some questions and we can ask you some in a private forum. Would you feel more comfortable with that?

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  148. I watch this blog alot and understand why Barbs family don't want personell information on here. You should just email or write the plate number here. If you are worried about who reads this you have already said you have the number.

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  149. I can understand one being leary of e-mailing. When you e-mail it gives your name, and depending on the e-mail host, possibly more information. You are also able to look up the IP address where it came from and get a general idea of where the person sent the e-mail from.

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  150. How do you want to get the information to the family?

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  151. The comment about the Toyota has me concerend also. Did anyone read about the black Toyota that had almost snatched 2 little girls around the time the Toyota was seen driving real slow?? It was in the newspaper and the mother of the girls gave a description of this person who looks like the shooting suspect. The article on the perp was in the Roseburg newspaper aa few weeks ago I will look for the link because I think this person is being cocky and if he hurts any child in Glendale or anywhere else I will make it my job to personally find you and make sure you are in jail.

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  152. ok I thought it was in Dec. but it was before that but really strange wish we had more info could possibly be the same person
    http://www.nrtoday.com/article/20091103/news/911039983&parentprofile=search or searh newsreview glendale toyota it will come up.
    I hope and pray that this person/s will be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent. Oregon is an death penelty state and I hope they know this. Also looked at this myspace person Steve and all I can say by looking at his profile he is: a devil worshiper, athesist would not care if he did this to someone because he has no care about heaven or hell that he could burn in it, Druggie and proud of it, a loser he has hardly any friends, probably a nasty person, and I am keeping an eye out for him. Its nice to see the billboard in Winston with the suspects sketch on it. How people get caught is; Not by the cops, it takes small towns to solve murders sometime 30+years, but its the suspect that usally talks and cuts his own troat so to speak. I want to know what kinds of tattoos are on his neck, if anyone knows the pic on his page is too small but very distictive. How do we know the murderer is not the one saying Jason and posting someone elses name so they look at them instead? Also if the cops questioned the person Steve, and let him go it is because they cannot prosecute without cause. The murderer will continue to look over his shoulder day after day and wonder when will they come for him. Think about it.God prevails all the time keep the faith and we will find him. Don't ever think one minute detail is too small because it may help solve this horrendus crime and bring justice to the family. The reward is growing and one of the people who knows about this or is a girlfirnd of this suspect turn them in and get the reward money and go. You just never know...God bless the family

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  153. Has anyone looked the the myspace photo of the Jason person? I did and he fits the desription also. His profile says he's into guns and its worth looking into, I think he looks scruffy enough like the sketch.

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  154. FYI also the druggies all stick together in this town. They let others know if the cops are in town, come in unmarked cars for God's sake! The Marty guy if he is involved with this he has already got his kids back and back to his old ways. Just because he went to church a few times does not mean he has changed in anyway, why did these people get their kids back??? The justice system is screwed up we make big deals out of little things and let the big things go that matter. I found that someone helped this scum bag get his kids back, he did not deserve back and the people that helped this should be in jail for child abuse also. Wake up open your eyes don't take this anymore. If you see abuse what had happened with their family please turn them in, the kids are the ones suffering for it. I know this is not related but if he has anything to do with what has happened, we need to take a stand. Take Glendale back people I sleep with a gun at nite it makes me feel a little safer and keep your doors locked!

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  155. I'am so glad to see you are all posting. Please don't stop talking about it. Someone might say one small word that will remind someone about something they saw that day. Don't let Barbara & Helen's name fade away.
    Never give up. If you know something, do the right thing. Turn in a killer. Don't let killers take over your town..
    Barbara & Helen will have Justice, but they need your help. Keep talking, keep posting.
    Your friend from across the miles..

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  156. I don't believe that story at all about a guy in a black Toyota trying to pick up some womans kids. I think that was generated to throw everyone off track. She lived on Sol Abraham street. That part of the street that she lived on is a two part street. She lived on a back street and I believe it is a dead end street. There is no way he could take off speeding fast when she came out. Well there is, but he would have to stop at two four way stops and one stop sign on main street.
    The license plate # I believe is either 234-CZR or 034-CZR. It has a green tree in the middle. One of the older plates. There was a black Toyota owned by Steve Kirkland and it is true that he sold it just before the shooting and a black Toyota owned by a girl named ...... She is good and has been checked out numerous times by the police(stopped). This one that I am talking about is no longer in town because there is a sheriff that now comes into town. Don't let anyone try to tell you that it is some stranger. A stranger has no need to wear a beard. Chad Jones, the Kirkland's and others had been hanging out at Marty woods place all summer long. Every single day. After the shooting they all disappeared the very next day. The shooting is all connected to them and it don't matter how many times the police have talked to Steve and his son they still are involved. I hope, but doubt that the police will really check into this Toyota. I know that it had a new brush Gard on the front of it also. And like I said big decals on the side windows and on the back window. If this is not it. Please hire a private eye. I really want to see this guy caught. I myself will keep taking pictures of every Black Toyota that comes into this town. That person with the comment before me is not the only one who keeps thier doors locked at all times and I have a gun both in my living room and bedroom. Sorry that I did not post the number on here earlier. I was scared. But we can't let people like that scare us. We all need to try and give a tip even if it turns out to be nothing.

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  157. Thank You for the license plate # You are right we can not let people like this scare us . Evil will not win !

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  158. the street on sol abrham is a side road that goes thru to the other side and yes they could speed away the six year old did get their mom and saw the truck speed away. If he was the one who murdered and shot these people what's to say he would not rape or kill children when he shot two unarmed ladies for what reason?? Murder's who kill have no soul and I fully believe this person was going to get the nerve to do something stupid again. We cannot say because we live in a small town we don't have people who would do something stupid like snatch someones children. Evil lurks in small place, pray for these people or peoson to get caught slip up I sure they will and justice prevail. Glendale is a good place, but I will not feel safe till his butt is in jail.

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  159. sorry to say the story from the woman was not made up heard it from our pastor and the woman goes to our church, I don't know why some one would try to throw them off that makes no sense just makes everyone remeber and not forget and I am always looking for this vehicle or person. They will slip, trust me they always do and they will be caught I am sure.

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  160. This person is no stranger I believe. He knew of where he was going and if it was related to a burglary then did this chad guy pay Steve to take them out, you know drug dealers will do anything to get a high. We do not hear of a lot of crime but in places such as San Fran, murders happen daily, and sometimes for $40 or whatever. I hope we are all praying for justice these women deserve justice!!

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  161. The description say's this person was wearing a light blue sweatshirt..Men don't usually wear a light blue sweatshirt.
    Women kill too.. Just a thought..

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  162. I believe the license plate are DRZ 024. I saw the same one with the large, glowing white decals on a dirty black 4Runner.

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  163. No... the numbers came before the letters did. When you are scared you do things in a hurry. You don't want to get caught. You are afraid that he will catch you and come looking for you. For sure the letters are CRZ and they come before before 024. But thanks for the help maybe it is 024 CRZ. We thought that it was either 234 or 024. Lost the paper. But had taken a couple of pictures and we were trying to figure it out on the photo. i thought I got a close up of the license plate number, but it was a little blurry.
    Maybe it is true about the guy trying to abduct a little kid, but I don't think it was the same guy who shot those two women. Those two were targeted. Otherwise I truly believe in my heart the first person he would have shot would have been the guy he asked where the high School was located. If you are going to shoot somebody for no reason why not him? He was just as Innocent as those two women.
    Chad Jones wanted those two women dead and as cocky as Steve Kirkland is he would do it along with his other friends. All those druggies think they are above the law and in this case they seem to be.

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  164. JASON TAYLOR WAS ARRESTED AND IS NOW INCARCERATED IN THE DOUGLAS COUNTY JAIL. CHECK HIS PICTURE WITH THE ONE ON THIS PAGE.

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  165. www.dcso.com/inmates_in_custody_details2asp?inmate=1000286 He looks similar to the sketch, but I wouldn't say an exact. I see it's a parole violation and no bail....must be something big!

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  166. Maybe it's for providing Stevie with a gun and fake beard. Because he looks nothing like the sketch.

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  167. Why isn't Chad Jones is jail with him?

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  168. I don't know why it's not as obvious to the police as it is everyone else that Chad Jones is behind this! I'm thinking it's time we get together a Private Investigator fund before it's too late. It just makes me sick to my stomach to see all this time go by with out any solid leads. Well, at least as far as the sheriff's office is concerened. There's no doubt in my mind who did this, or was involved in some way. Less than 24 hours after it happened someone came up and told me they heard from a reliable source that young Steve Kirkland did it. I got no other info what so ever, but the name. I didn't even know who he was when this person told me.

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  169. The question is: What will make it worth while for someone to share what they know? Someone obviously knows who did this and who put them up to it. Please step up and share your info. If it is money you want, call the hotline. The reward IS growing every day.

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  170. I saw where someone said a billboard was posted in Winston. I just noticed that Stephen Kirkland changed the city he was in to Winston. Does anyone know when he did this? Is he taunting the family or what? He is one sick kid if he is!!!

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  171. Where did you see Stephen Kirkland's city?

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  172. question for anon. that heard from a reliable source that young Steve Kirkland did it - Can you find out who the reliable source is? The police can't arrest a person because "someone" told "someone" that "someone" else told them.

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  173. I will most certainly try to narrow down a name, or names of any "reliable" sources that may have more information.

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  174. Kirkland's city is listed on his MySpace.

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  175. Is Chad Jones the root to all this evil?

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  176. will you post a link to his myspace page?

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  177. http://www.myspace.com/skirk420

    what about the others involved in the robbery at Helen's house a couple of years ago (maybe less time ago?). have any of them been questioned? i don't know for sure, but i heard there were a few people involved in that.

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  178. only the police know who was questioned and if any warrants have been issued for the burglary

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  179. I too saw where Steve Kirkland had his home listed as Winston on his MY Space. Also he listed his Religion as an Atheist so what does that tell you? He has no remorse for what he did. Never will fill guilt, never will worry about Hell, never will care about what he did. On his page is a big black Grim Reaper. Sometimes i wonder if that kid has all his marbles there. And the picture of Jason looks nothing like the sketch. The eyebrows are to bushy and he looks quite old. Steve Kirkland has two My Space accounts. one has him listed as living in Glendale and he took the picture off that matched the sketch. The other one has him listed as living in Winston and is under Quik if I remember right. and he put up a different photo. Everyone here in Glendale knew right away that it was him. I called a member of the family the next day and told them that I was told that it was either Steve Kirkland that did it or Chad Jones. But Chad Jones supposedly was in the state of WA.
    Here is another tip. It may be nothing at all, but you might get a hold of Glen Buck. I heard about why he shot at someone last year and it had to do with the burglary out at Helen's. He was trying to protect himself and his son. Not sure if the story is true, but it might be worth you time to check it out. I know that the D.A in Grant Pass threw the charges out. The people that were shot at were outraged. There had to be a good reason for the judge or DA to throw the charges out. Those people that he shot at were druggies. I hope that some of the tips will help in some way. I want to see this good for nothing piece of coward that would shoot two unarmed women go down.

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  180. quix
    18 / male
    winston
    www.myspace.com/skirk420
    My Space Stephen Kirkland

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  181. The previous comment (story) is complete fictional. Shame on who ever this is. I think you should be held liable for making up hurtful things about people. You do not know these things as stated in your comment, because they are not true. I thought this forum was for tips, and not Glendale's gossip page.

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  182. Which part is fiction?

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  183. I am not losing hope I pray that the person/s will turn them selves in. We need a PI and I will donate money towards it. Is anyone else with me on this? Where can we donate for that to? Lets keep the heat on the person responsible so I can sleep better at night that this person will not come shoot up my family.

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  184. Would someone please print a pic and show it to thw witness to the Jason Taylor to see if he looks at all like the person wanted?? It can be seen at the dcso website

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  185. I don't know of anything on here that is "complete fictional" - whatever that is supposed to mean. We are all thinking out loud here trying to come up with something or get someone to talk or remember something they may have seen. As far as Stephen Kirkland's page, that is all true. As far as Glen Buck being harassed, that is true.

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  186. I see where it says "not sure if this story is true but it might be worth your time to check it out". Again....people are just trying to sort things out. The ones who need to be held liable are the low life drug addicts and thieves, not people who are trying to narrow down who might know something that could help this case.

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  187. When "someone" tells you they heard "something" from "someone", make sure to ask them who "someone" is. Eventually we will get back to the person that knows what happened. Don't stop posting because you're not quite sure about something. Your comments might help others recall something helpful.

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  188. Glen Buck was prosecuted for shooting at people. You can find it in the courts in Douglas Co. Maybe since he randomly shoots at people, he and his son are someone to look at. Yes it was random as his attorney told the DA that he shot at the wrong people. It happened here in Glendale which would not have been dimissed by Josehine County. Unless he was shooting at people there as well.

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  189. Please keep posting any info that can be used, don't hold back! To those who have been offended by some of the posts, I am sorry, but if it were your family that this happened to you would want to get a hold of any bit of information you could, too. This site is to gather any possible lead there may be out there. Whatever that may be, it can be sorted out. Please keep posting and praying, this horrible person, or people, need to be held accountible and punished for what they've done!

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  190. Someone knows who did this horrible crime, and not just the one or ones who did it, so as we keep talking some bit of information that will help solve the crime will come out. Keep talking and remember the reward, it is there for whoever gives info to the police that leads to a conviction.

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  191. Stay positive. Never give up.
    God is on your side..

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  192. Does anyone know why chad jones has never been arrested for the burglary? I would think that would be a start, unless it's no longer a crime for being a thief. I really don't understand how the police operate around here. To annon. Jan 22, there is no need to be upset, I do not see anything fictional on here, everyone as far as I can tell are only trying to help. The story about the black toyota being at someones house and talking to kids, was on the news and in the paper, to the person who thinks that was made up, do you mean the person who called the police and reported it, may have made it up? I didn't understand that. Anyway lets all just keep thinking out loud and not take anything personal, that doesn't help solve this crime.

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  193. How do they know Chad Jones was the one that did the burglary at Helen's house?

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